Lingering Fisheries Association issues persist into 2019

By on January 24, 2019

Captain George’s was the venue for the recent 2019 North Carolina Fisheries Association’s Annual Meeting, which addressed issues that included conflicts with special interest groups, shrimp trawl bans and aquaculture in the sounds.

The NCFA is the primary organization promoting, providing education and, in recent years, defending North Carolina’s commercial fishing industry.

NCFA board presided over an extensive agenda, discussing and taking comments from the dozen or so NCFA members attending on a wide range of legislative, regulatory and other issues the organization faces in 2019.

As board Chairman Brent Fulcher worked his way through the agenda, many of the same concerns facing the NCFA this year are the same, unresolved issues that were on the board’s plate five, 10, and even 20 years ago.

Primary among them were the continuing challenges of well-financed efforts of special interest groups claiming to represent recreational fishing interests.

For those who have followed these issues in the past, the actions of the Coastal Conservation Association, a national group with state chapters active in virtually every state, was once again behind several initiatives seen as a threat by the NCFA to their industry.

The CCA has succeeded in reducing quotas of fish allotted to commercial interests, removing entire species of fish from commercial harvest, banning the use of certain commercial fishing equipment, shortening the length of harvest seasons, and taking control of state agencies dealing with marine fishing resources, regulatory commissions, and even state legislatures from California to New York.

It wasn’t too long ago that the NCFA and other groups fought back attempts by the CCA to use the state legislature and the North Carolina Marine Fisheries Commission to ban three species (red drum, specked trout and striped bass) from all commercial harvest as well as a separate effort to ban shrimp trawling from the state’s inland waters.

Those issues, particularly shrimp trawl bans, are still looming on the horizon, as well as new efforts by the CCA to shut down certain portions of the Southern Flounder fishery in the state.

The board debated the quality of the scientific data backing some of these initiatives, some of it based on studies considered flawed by academic peer review groups, or paid for by the same special interests seeking these bans or reductions in commercial harvest.

They listened as members related how all of their landings are accounted for as a result of regulations requiring those catches to be recorded by “fish houses” while recreational catches are largely based on estimates. For commercial fishermen, when the landings indicate the maximum allocation for a fish species has been reached, the entire fishery is closed for further commercial harvest, while recreational takings continue.

The same situation exists, in their eyes, when data on fish mortality is circulated. Commercial vessels often have observers who sample catches for mortality and the capture of non-targeted species, while discards among recreational anglers, which often result in fish mortality, are likewise estimated from scanty data.

The board also dealt with the emerging aquaculture industry in the state, particularly oyster farming in inland waters.

In general, the NCFA board and members were supportive of the new industry because it allows their members to add another revenue stream as restrictions on other fishing activities reduce traditional sources of income.

But there were concerns also: Will the increase in oyster farming, where acres of underwater cages house the growing oysters, interfere with commercial trawls, hook and line and other fishing techniques?

The board also lamented the lack of attention from the state, media and even among their own membership on water quality issues, especially where runoff from as far away as the state’s mountains, push contaminants into the inland and coastal waters in the eastern part of the state.

Other fishermen questioned whether many of the regulatory “cures” imposed on both commercial and recreational anglers actually made problems worse.

As one member from the audience noted, all fish are predators of other fish, so when the state protects rockfish (striped bass) and their numbers explode, one can expect a decline in flounder numbers as the rebounding rockfish population feeds on stocks of other species.

Another member cited a similar situation with flounder regulations, where the state has steadily increased the length of a flounder that can be legally taken by recreational anglers.

Hooked flounder often swallow the hook whole making it difficult to extract it without mortally wounding the discard. How many smaller fish are killed as anglers discard 13” and 14” flounder until they catch one large enough to keep? And how many larger female flounder, mature enough to reproduce, are lost because the size limit forces the taking of the older, more reproductively active fish?

The board also mentioned how the CCA and other groups want to remove inland fisheries from the control of the MFC and transfer oversight to the state’s Wildlife Resources Commission, an agency with no mandate to balance fisheries among recreational and commercial interests or experience in fisheries management where the two groups overlap.

If all of those issues weren’t daunting enough, the board dealt with their small budget ($300,000) to carry on with their mission of protecting the cultural, historic and economic aspects of their industry against organizations backed by funding from the likes of Yamaha, Yeti, Costa and others, the potential effects of a new federal law, the “Modern Fish Act” (passed by the GOP-controlled House and Senate, signed by President Trump and supported by the CCA) and what appears to be diminishing media interest in commercial fishing and their side of the story when legislative and regulatory issues are being considered.


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  • Jack Straw

    I can’t respond to the NCFA’s Board’s puzzlement about the lack of attention regarding water quality issues. Perhaps they are talking to the wrong people. None of the river basins that originate in the NC mountains flow into the eastern part of the state, including NC’s coastal waters.

    Thursday, Jan 24 @ 1:19 pm
  • Charles van Salisbury

    Commercial fishing efforts at all time low , with recreational efforts at all time high… commercial fishermen supply the PUBLIC with fresh Seafood , yet are the ones taking the hits everytime ncdmf create a problem with fisheries…. instead of destroying people’s lifes ( commercial fishermen) , I feel like they should be trying to protect them… commercial fishermen feed people, we cannot take much more regulations and survive.

    Friday, Jan 25 @ 5:27 pm
  • Russ Lay

    Mr. Straw:

    Try reading more closely. The exact quote from the story would be “especially where runoff from *as far away* as the state’s mountains, push contaminants *into the inland* AND coastal waters in the eastern part of the state.”

    The qualifier “as far away” doesn’t mean exclusively “the mountains” and the qualifier “into the inland” followed by “and coastal waters” would include fisheries and nurseries that are not within the purview of your puzzling, broader interpretation, as well as coastal waters contaminated from basins other than those that originate in the mountains.

    I added those words for a purpose, as did the NCFA board.

    Friday, Jan 25 @ 10:30 pm
  • David Sneed

    It is really sad that commercial fishermen continue to blame CCA for their problems instead of looking in the mirror. How in the world anyone can believe that CCA is behind the Southern flounder harvest reductions when we got to this point because of the commercial industry control of an MFC that has refused to deal with declining stocks for decades is beyond comprehension. We have run out of time because the MFC has refused to believe the science that you think CCA had anything to do with? Now important recreational and commercial fisheries face 70% cuts and moratoriums. You think we want fisheries closed? We are fishermen and consumers. The commercial industry’s refusal to believe the science behind Southern flounder and the central region striped bass is another classic case of history repeating itself. See river herring. If you sincerely want to understand the science I suggest you talk with the DMF biologists that are developing the Southern flounder FMP, not blame it on “special interest groups”.
    Unless the NCFA stops looking for a bogeyman and starts working with conservation groups trying to save our coastal resources they will kill their own livelihood. We agree on oyster mariculture. There is a place to start.

    Sunday, Jan 27 @ 1:18 pm
  • Bert Owens

    Interesting that the article points out, correctly, that the MFC has a mandate to balance fisheries among recreational and commercial groups. Thing is when have they ever given any consideration to the recreational side? Look at any past agendas and you’ll see nothing regarding recreational fishing listed. Zero -Zip – Nada. Time is way past that anglers should get their fair share of the attention regarding our fisheries. Game fish for example is a pro recreational issue that the MFC should have supported.
    If CCA management requests on Southern Flounder had been followed a few years ago the stock would be in better shape for all. Between the MFC, DMF, CCA, and NCFA the only true friend of the future of commercial fishing in N.C. is the CCA. All the others are satisfied with continued decline.

    Monday, Jan 28 @ 10:01 am
  • Christopher Elkins

    To respond to Mr. Salisbury about NC commercial fishermen feeding the public. He said
    “Charles van Salisbury

    Commercial fishing efforts at all time low , with recreational efforts at all time high… commercial fishermen supply the PUBLIC with fresh Seafood , yet are the ones taking the hits everytime ncdmf create a problem with fisheries…. instead of destroying people’s lifes ( commercial fishermen) , I feel like they should be trying to protect them… commercial fishermen feed people, we cannot take much more regulations and survive.”

    Several years ago a gamefish bill was proposed and defeated. Each of them, speckled trout, red drum and estuarine striped bass, supply about 100,000 lbs of filets annually from commercial fishing annually. These fish cannot feed the 10 million NC citizens as some folks might claim. The per capita (2017) US fish consumption was 16 lbs a year. So if you divide the 300,000 lbs of filets from those three gamefish by the NC population (300,000 lbs / 10,000,000 people) you get an annual 3/100 of a pound per person for those gamefish. How is this feeding the public? It’s not, it’s not even an ounce of speckled trout, red drum and estuarine striped bass combined. When you contrast this value with the recreational economic impact of these three fish that total way over 100 million dollars a year, gamefish is a viable alternative and that is why in many states they have been reserved for recreational fishermen. We do not manage our fisheries “equally”, never have. Blue crabs, shrimp, S flounder all are primarily commercial fisheries. If you want to “equally” manage fisheries, okay. Let’s split it all down the middle. I don’t think shrimpers or crabbers would be on board with this.

    Monday, Jan 28 @ 6:36 pm
  • Fisher Man

    Okay, want to talk about fish stocks? There is only a fraction of commercial fisherman surviving on the water due strictly to being regulated out of business, guess what if there is less commercial fishermen the numbers are going to be down…. common sense… less fishermen taking fish to sell so the numbers look down. Fishing always swings back and forth, fish constantly move, you have good years and not so good years. Its ashame that groups like the cca have to attack us with garbage like endangered sea turtles , but everytime it gets cold, hundreds wash up cold stunned, doesn’t sound endangered to me.

    Tuesday, Jan 29 @ 10:29 pm